In this episode of The Successful Chiro, Dr. Noel Lloyd sits down with world-renowned speaking coach Roberto Monaco to uncover why communication is the most powerful tool a chiropractor can master. From his unlikely journey into chiropractic to life-changing personal experiences that made him a passionate advocate, Roberto shares why every chiropractor has a story worth telling—and how speaking can transform your practice. Whether it’s new patient orientations, dinner talks, video marketing, or community lectures, Roberto explains how to overcome fear, build confidence, and use storytelling to lead your community. If you’ve ever said, “I’m not a natural speaker,” this episode will change your mind.
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Hi, this is Dr. Noel Lloyd for Five Star Management, and this is the Successful Chiro Podcast. At Five Star, one of the things that we do is help busy, successful doctors bring associates in correctly in our win-win system so that you can help more people, have more fun, make more money, and I have got an absolutely wonderful guest today, Roberto Monaco, a man that I've heard of.
For a long, long time and finally had a chance to meet, and has consented to be my guest. Roberto, how are you? I'm doing amazing, Dr. Noel. How are you doing, friend? You good? Well, I'm fine. Say I want to read your bio here to let the people know. In fact, I'm sure that. Virtually everybody in the chiropractic profession knows who you are, but in case there's one person out there who doesn't know, okay, perfect.
Know I wanna read this. Perfect. Roberto Monaco is a full-time speaker, coach and trainer who has delivered over 5,000 presentations across seven countries since 2002, and for the past 12 years, he has specialized as the premier speaking and influence coach for top chiropractors and chiropractic advocates. Roberto has spoken at hundreds of chiropractic events and received the prestigious Chiropractic Advocate Award from Sherman College in 2022. As founder of Influenceology and the Chiro Speaking Company, he empowers doctors to communicate powerfully in. Patient classes, corporate lectures, videos, so important for the doctors to know how to speak in videos and through signature programs called Influencing from the Front.
The Chiro Speaking Club. You were born in Porto, Allegra. Did I say that right? I love the pronunciation. That's great. Porto, Allegra, yeah. Brazil. Yeah. And Roberto conducts workshops in both English and Portuguese. He lives in Mount Pleasant, South Carolina with his beautiful wife and gorgeous children.
So anyway, let's start here. How did you get mixed up with chiropractors, because you're not a chiropractor, but No. Mixed up with us. They're funny. Like a lot of chiropractic events, they put Roberto Mon DC. And I actually have to email them just to make sure, you know, I'm not dc you know, so I got involved, many, many years ago.
One of my clients was, his name was Gary Gunderson. He's a financial guru, money guru, and he said, you gotta work with chiropractors. And Dr. Noel had no idea what chiropractic was, had no idea. Zero. And then eventually, six months later, a chiropractor or Texas, Dr. Chris Zeno calls me up. And he told me, I'm doing these dinners, during the doctor, I'm closing around 50% and Gary Re referred you to me.
Can you help me? And I'm thinking, yeah, just like I help a financial planner. A loan officer, yeah, no problem. Send me a talk. So I help him. And conversions went from 50 to 90%. He couldn't believe it. Right? In the process, I met my wife and, we knew right away we wanna have a family and. My wife said, I wanna stop taking birth control pills.
I said, no problem. And a month passed by. Two months passed by, three months, four months, six months passed by no period. And then she started going to the MDs. I wanna make the story very short. So after four MDs, four doctors, no answer. Uh, many, many nights I go to bed, hug my wife, and I could feel. Her tears in my eyes because she thought of something wrong with her.
And, and remember one day a Chris Zano came, to train with me in San Diego. I was living in San Diego, and I told that story. I felt really embarrassed to share this in public. He goes, bro, my message is for you and your wife too. Gotta see a chiropractor. So the next day I went to see Dr. Ryan Herman, San Diego, and I never forget Dr.
Well. Walking in doing the x-rays and he showed the x-rays. My wife had a big subluxation lower back in the neck in Star Care, one year into care, two years into care, three years into care, almost four years into care. No, period. And things really got bad because at that point I thought, we never gonna have kids.
So nine Christmas ago. December 24th in the morning, I'm in San Francisco. Me, my mom, her mom, eight o'clock in the morning. I wake up, I'm hanging out, drinking coffee. My wife's sleeping and then she wakes up, goes to bathroom, never forget, comes back, walking towards me bawling, just like bawling. I have goosebumps.
Just think about that, and she's like, I got my period. And I'm like, are you? Oh, wow. And I'm like, are you sure? And we start like dancing, you know, like in a, in a soccer, when the, the players start, you know, jumping around, they score a goal. So we were doing that in a kitchen, nine in the morning, me and my wife, my mom, her mom.
And then fast forward nine months, we get pregnant by now. My best friend's, a chiropractors, and they reaffirm us to watch a movie. The business of being born. It's about natural birth. And my wife, she's super brave. She goes, I wanna have a natural birth. So we found a natural birth Santa San Diego, and that was the most amazing experience.
22 hours of labor. Finally, Sophia was born at 10:16 PM August 2nd, and when she was born, she barely could breathe. She was like, oh. Bad situation. And then the two midwife nurses trying to do anything, try to do interventions, nothing help. They attach a monitor on her to measure her oxygen levels and they said if she doesn't get better in 12 hours by law, the baby gotta go to the hospital she was born at 10:16 PM I never forget this moment.
I pick up the, my cell phone, 5:00 AM and I text my Chiro and say, Hey, Dr. Ryan. And said, anyway, he can come here? And I sent a text. He texted me back and said I was waiting for the call. So he came in, put Sophia down and he goes, yeah, her atlas is off subluxated. I just her once, she's eight hours old and we're just watching three minutes later, check her again.
Yeah, I just heard again. Then check her again. She was clear like, just like a movie, get Sophia, give to my wife. And Sophia threw up the amniotic fluid that was taking her lungs and she gave the most beautiful, powerful baby cry. I looked at my chiropractor, he had tears come down. He said, did you see the power of the innate.
Wow. And at that morning, next day at 10:00 AM we didn't go to the hospital, went home. So I always, every time in front of a chiropractor like I am right now here with you and the audience, I want to thank you for teaching something that literally change the course of my life, my wife, my kids' life. Now let me tell you why I work with chiropractors.
A week later, I took a picture and, uh, oh, this most beautiful picture of of Sophia, and I just closed my eyes. I'm looking this baby, I'm looking the picture. And I remember a movie in my mind, meeting my wife, all those years of struggling, going to chiropractor and then finally have this healthy baby.
And I had this realization in our birth center, they recommend us to have a, a natural birth class, right? So basically it was eight weeks every Wednesday night to go in for three hours. So there's 10 couples, 20 people. On the first day the teacher asked this question, why are you here? 20 people said exactly the same thing.
Now they use different words. They said, we are here because we want something natural. Yeah. Now lemme tell you why I'm here today, Dr. Lloyd. Because of the 20 people, only one dad, one mom were being adjusted and one baby was adjusted birth, which is my family. Yeah. So we usually ask chiropractors, why do you think that is?
They usually say, well, because people don't know about it. The second question that I follow up with is, what are you gonna do about it? So my goal being here today with you, Dr. Lloyd, today, this podcast is just to inspire the doctors to go to the next level. There's always the next level. You as a coach, you know there's always the next level to inspire them to go and share chiropractic, to record the next video, do the next talk to schedule the next talk, to do the next event.
Right, because I am on the other side, I know what it looks like, feels like not knowing, and most people don't know, so, so the most effective, the most passionate, the most. Inspiring and inspired chiropractors I know are those that have their own personal story. And so when I ask you about how you got mixed up with chiropractic and then you were with Dr.
Gunderson and Dr. Zaino and then everything became super personal. Yep. Any father on the planet would say the most precious people on the planet are his kids. And you have chiropractic and you and your wife both to thank for your children. And so that makes sense.
You are a true believer. So now you serve the chiropractic profession. Now I have, I built my practice before it was legal to advertise. You couldn't do Facebook, you couldn't even do phone book. You couldn't do, you couldn't do mailers, you couldn't do anything. And so, I taught a class and I had some training in speaking and theater and things like that.
And, and I find that one of the big challenges that chiropractors have is that public speaking isn't necessarily something that they're good at. Mm-hmm. So, I'm curious, what do you do for chiropractors who wanna get the word out?
Mm-hmm. But they don't feel prepared or adequate for the job. Mm-hmm. Great question. Most because, I always tell this to my audience. Number one, I am biased. Okay. So maybe can take 10% off because speaking has changed my life. I am a speaking coach, so obviously I'm biased, but if you stop and think about every leader in any industry, right?
You, you name any industry, I work with a 50 50 industries. They are doing talks, they're leading people, they're on tv, they're on the radio, they're on video, right? So the higher you go, the more important speaking becomes. And I always tell my clients it's not about public speaking, it's about public leading.
Public speaking, yeah. Is a tool of leadership. Now, if I'm a chiropractor and I wanna lead my community. Well, if you wanna lead my community to be healthy, then you have to lead yourself. Gotta lead your team. Tell your patients with the community. Alright, so what I do specifically, I broke down my system into areas not every single chiropractor.
Struggle with the same problems. The first area is the whole mindset is the fear of being judged, afraid to speak. That's a big part of it. The other part I'm talking about organization of the presentation. 'cause sometimes they don't have fear and they do a talk and they don't convert people, they don't get signups, they get frustrated, give up.
So being able to organize a message from opening the preframe, the body pre closes and close. That makes sense Ethically. That helps them achieve an outcome. That's the second part. The third part is storytelling. We all know facts tell, story sell. So a lot of chiropractors, you said, in my view, and I coach thousands of chiros in my view, around 30% of the industry of chiropractors have that crazy story.
That chiropractic change my life. 70% don't have and the 70% that goes, I don't have a chiropractic story, which is the biggest lie ever because everybody has a story. Yes. So being able to find that story maybe didn't have something crazy to happen in the beginning. I get it. And maybe chiropractic was a profession before it became a mission, but after working with so many chiropractors, I developed systems to help them tell the story effectively.
Right. So psychology organization, storytelling in the last piece. From presentation perspective is charisma, is being able to deliver a message with power, with confidence, with empathy, eye contact, body language, right? So in terms of speaking, these are the four areas, and then the last area that I help Chiros do is say, Hey, how do I bring people to my own events?
How do I get booked to speak? Do I need a speaker page? So obviously we help our clients with that as well. So let me ask you, um, and you obviously, when you showed up when you met Dr. Gunderson and Dr. Zano, you obviously Dr. Just make a quick correction. Uh, Gary Gunderson is not the, he's big into chiropractic, but he's, uh, uh, Dr.
Chris Zno, z Chiro. Gunderson is not Chio. Just a quick correction. Oh, I see. Okay. Correction. Yeah. Um, but what type of background, what type of training did you have? What type of experience? Perfect. Yeah. Very good. So my experience. My, I have my, my training background is I graduating, bachelor's in finance in Brazil.
I got an MBA in marketing and I was the guy that for many years, Dr. Lloyd. I always watch, my clock is a five o'clock, yet is a five o'clock yet because I hate my job. I hate my banking job. Then I got a job in sales. I'm like, I hate this, I hate this. And I remember one day I remember clearly telling my mom one day, I wanna be like a soccer player or a singer.
And my mom was tease me. What do you mean you can't play soccer? You can't sing. What do you mean? He goes, no, no, mom, I wanna be like, I feel like they're made for that. I was talking about purpose without knowing I was talking about purpose, right? Yes. So, so I went through a lot of soul searching.
Eventually I got a job with the Anthony Robbins companies. Tony Robbins. Yes. The motivation speaker. And I had two jobs. My first job, just like a chiropractor, does lunch and learn. I was doing 400 talks a year. It's a lot that, that's all I did. I wasn't coaching 400, right? Three a day Saturday. It's called, FSR Field Sales Rep.
So basically go to a company or schedule lunch and, a talk, like a, a talk in the morning, in the evening, car dealers, mortgage companies, real estate offices. Then you do a 45 minute workshop and you close and sell tickets. So I learned how I learned on job. So after thousands of talks. People start reaching out to me and say, Hey, can you help me?
So in 2009 opened up a company called Influenceology with my business partner. So I have been working with, 50 industries and never had a plan to go after chiropractors. I didn't know chiropractic was, it's just like when I started working with chiropractors, it, uh, it became so big that I opened a second company, Chiro speaking company.
So now I have two companies. I'll never leave chiropractic 'cause chiropractic changed my life and I feel deep down. I owe to chiropractic and chiropractors so chiropractors are listening to this podcast, and one guy I know for a fact is saying to himself, I'm not a public speaker.
Mm-hmm. I mean, I would love to have that gift. I would love to have that talent. Yeah. And I'm not gifted, I'm not talented. Maybe this isn't for me. What would you say to that guy? Can I talk? I'm talking to you, um, now. Okay. I'm talking to the chiropractor who thinks that you don't have the.
Public speaking genes. I don't have it, English is my third language in Brazil. I said Portuguese. My second language was Spanish. Because if you look at the Brazil map in South America, all the countries around are Spanish speaking countries. And I thought, I'll never need English in my life.
Right? So I know I have an accent. I wasn't good with language. Portuguese. You don't need to be good at language. You need to have purpose. You need to have purpose. Now, once you have purpose, then you can develop the skills just like you develop your adjusting skills, you develop your marketing skills, or any other skills, public speaking.
You learn how to open a talk, how to frame information, how to tell a story. You just learn. And the cool thing about, I was just having a call today with someone else before a podcast, Dr. Lloyd, and I was telling this person that the cool thing about speaking, number one, you can go as far as you want to.
When I started. When you started, right, we didn't have many venues. Now we have Zoom, we have lives. We have this 7, 8, 7, 8, 9 platforms that you can post, you can speak, right? Speaking in front of a camera and multiply. Your voice is amazing. The opportunity's amazing. So yeah, it's something that if you train your confidence, storytelling a little charisma, a little messaging.
Everybody. Can become better so somebody is asking themselves, they say, okay, so I could be trained and, this would work for me. One of the things that you had in your bio that I really liked was learning how to speak on video. How do you train somebody?
Yes. To be able to be, natural and comfortable and enjoy the video process. Perfect. So. When I worked for Tony Robbins for six years, this is from 2002 to 2008, YouTube. In the end of 2008, 2009, something happened. Three things happened. Number one, YouTube became available, so now people could upload a video share.
Second thing that happens was the smartphone revolution, people start buying. 2008, 2009. And the third thing, you had good internet, not AOL that actually had, you could upload the video. So I remember 2009, I was like, I'm gonna do video marketing. And I remember, putting my camera, my flip camera, the old camera.
Yeah. And I felt so. Awkward. Mm-hmm. And here I am, a guy who has done back in 2008 thousands of talks, I trained Tony Robbins speakers for the Anthony Robbins companies. Right. I, I trained them. I was the trainer. And you put me in front of a camera and I felt awkward.
So how do I go from not wanting to be on camera to actually enjoying, I love video marketing now. Well, one of, one of the things is, is that , you wanna put the wraps, repetition and practice our help. The second thing is that I realized when you are recording. By yourself, for example, is awkward to be animated, to speak louder or softer or faster, or you slow down by yourself in your room, right?
So it feels, feels awkward. Okay. But then you're just like, okay, it's not me. It's not me, the speaker. It is just, that's what it is. And then you keep doing it. Eventually break through. Right. And I realized, so I realized that the practice, the awareness, being able to look in a camera, like, now I'm, now I'm looking at Zoom, now I'm looking at camera, being able to establish eye contact, look in a camera
so there's a strategist. I always tell chiropractors, the number one reason, number one reason Dr. Lloyd, that stops chiropractors in other professions. From advocating what they do is fear of being judged, number one thing. By far, yeah. If I put myself out there, if I record that video, if I do that talk, if I call that company and I go there and speak, it's not good.
I'm gonna be judged number one thing. Or they say, if I put myself on camera, I have a big nose. So don't. I'm telling you, I hear this all day long and I say, look, let's address that number one. If you are the kind of person that say, I don't wanna record myself 'cause I have a big nose, guess what?
When you go to Walmart, that is exactly how your nose look like, right? I mean, it's funny is it is, duh. Right? Because ultimately we are making the presentation about us. And the truth is, if as a chiropractor, it's not about you, it's about, as far as I know, no chiropractor is greater than chiropractic.
True. Right? Right. So if chiropractic is bigger than any chiropractor, then don't make about you make about chiropractic. And the second thing I tell is this, the second thing, which is really important, if you speak, you're gonna be judged. If you don't speak, you're gonna be judged. Right. Look, if you're the doctor now you're listening to us and you say, yeah, I would love to do it, but I don't wanna be judged.
I promise you, in your town, 10 miles from your office, there's people that are looking for your help. They're willing to pay for your help, but they don't know you exist, right? For them. You are unknown. It's not bad judgment, right? If I say, Hey, have you, do you know about doctors X, Y, Z, Dr.
So-and-so, I never heard about him or her because if she or he was really good, then I would have heard about it. So I'm telling you, if you're not communicating your, your community, they already have a judgment about you anyway. Anyway, so why not have the opportunity to go and tell a story and share your patient stories and share your uniqueness and how you can help people specifically, right?
So let me ask you this. Give me a list. Of different ways in a regular chiropractic practice, how training in speaking and training in stories improves the whole practice uhhuh and starts to prepare somebody for doing videos or doing outside lectures. If I were a chiropractor, the first intro do.
By the way, I loved that you share your story that you're doing talks way before was even legal to advertise. I love that. That's why the, I always all the leaders in chiropractic like yourself, successful leaders. So many times I heard, I used to do talks before and now people don't do talks. So the first thing I would do, I would commit to the talks.
Why? Because you're gonna get better, your communication get better. You're gonna increase your certainty. All these benefits, by the way, you're gonna create a culture. And a lot of people, they tell me, Dr. Lloyd, I want to go, do an outside talk. I say, good, great. What's your plan? And say what? I want to cold to call a company, da, da.
Like, dude, this is the worst way to do it. I said the best way to do it, the most effective way is for you to do a class. And the people who just experience you, they just experience you. Those are the people most likely to introduce you, to introduce you to a company association, church, mastermind, government agency.
I'm telling you, just like you not intro, you now refer a sushi restaurant. To someone. If you've never been to the restaurant before, you go in, you like the restaurant, then you say, you know what? Go there. The same idea, right? They wanna, once they experience your talk experience, your heart experience, your desire to serve, they'll be like, you know what?
You might be a good speaker for our lunch or next week, whatever. Right. So number one builds confidence. It helps you market. Number two, creates a culture in your office. Now, let's say you wanna do more talks, advanced topics, let's say chiropractic in sports, you wanna do a class about, chiropractic pregnancy.
Now your patients already have a understanding that in your office, they come and learn. Here's another benefits too. Nowadays, by the way, I love social media. I post on seven social medias every day. Me and my team, I love it. I believe in social media. Big believer now, but I know social media, a lot of people go like this, right?
Two seconds, three seconds, five seconds, three seconds. When's the last time that you had a chance? To put 10, 15 people in a room and connect with them for half an hour and 45 minutes. Right. And that's, you go to this level of understanding, of connection that even if you do social media crazy, you can get it in a live talk.
Right. The other thing is to train, one of the things that I tell my clients to have is create a storytelling database. Which is, there's a whole topic that I teach, because a lot of times, and I see this over and over again, you have all these miracle stories that happen. The doctor knows about it, but just like jokes that sometimes you hear joke, you forget about it.
If we don't capture, we're gonna forget. Number two, it's important for us, for our team, our cas. To be able to equip them with those stories. So when they go live their lives and now your ca is in a party and someone's like, oh, I have headaches. And you'd be like, oh, okay. Let tell a story about a patient that had, uh, you equip your people to promote your services.
Right. So there's, another benefit to be PVA. Right? Increased retention because it's really hard to. I think the, in communication research, they talk about the three levels. It's called attitude shaping. When someone, when you shape someone's attitude towards something, they have no, no clue what it is.
Now they understand you have attitude changing when you change someone's attitude and you convert someone, and then you have attitude reinforcing how to reinforce. Someone's attitude. Now, if you're not willing to educate and reeducate, right? That, that's why most practices, they, they sign up Facebook ads, sign up, and then PVA is not good because they're very good at attitude shaping, attitude changing, but are not very good attitude reinforcing, right?
So one ways to do it is to constantly educate. I was just talking to a chiropractor this morning. We are building his new lecture, new patient orientation, lecture. And then he said, but I wanna share a lot of things. I say, good, but we don't share the lecture. You make super powerful, you make about chiropractic.
You may be teach another, some health principles, but that's why nowadays there's amazing, easy technology. That you can build a health course and you can give, if you wanna teach additional information, you can be dripping videos and courses to your patients for a long time to educate them.
So there's so many opportunities. And all the courses, the video marking, the talks, the dinners, the lunch and learns comes down to the doctor ability to be able to tell the chiropractic story being effective. So let me tell you a story. My first time, very, very first time I did a new patient orientation class.
Yeah. And I was inspired and I did such a terrible job. As I was driving home, I thought to myself. You know what? People really don't die of embarrassment because if they did, I would be dead and I didn't speak, I was so embarrassed that I didn't speak again for, I think it was a year or a year and a half.
If I had had somebody who was a mentor, somebody who was a coach, somebody who had training, I would've been able to get now by God's grace. I was able to get past that, and I just kept coming back. But I believe, you know, I coach people on how to do associates correctly.
Mm-hmm. Because people have bad experience with associates. That's not necessary. So, if somebody wanted to get some help, if somebody thinks I've got the message and I would like to make sure that I do a good job, I don't wanna embarrass myself. How would they get in touch with you and what would they find?
They can get in touch with me, through either through Influenceology or through chirospeaking.com. My email is roberto@influenceology.com or if you go to any platform, social media, any, you type up Roberto Monaco there I'm on seven platforms. So I mean, every platform available pretty much. And so they can learn about not only what you do, but get a chance to, experience your process.
So can you give me an example of a chiropractor that you've worked with who came and wasn't much of a speaker? Oh, yeah. I have so many. I have examples from my class. I have my examples from my coaching, from my class. I had this Dr. Chelsea that had this big B fear speaking.
She was a recent graduate. She lived in Graceville, area. And then I remember I do this class as a two and a half day class, and I remember she stood up like, I'm still afraid of speak. So I brought her in front of the class. I work with her. I have a bunch of techniques.
Obviously I develop. And then, a month later, she wrote me a testimonial that she went to the, one of our local de government departments and did that talk and close 13 people to her office, right? Crazy. So just like that. I had another doctor in Tennessee, Dr. Meyers, practicing for 15 years.
One five. Never done outside talk, never done one outside talk. Came to my class. Go inspire, sign up for coaching. And I said, the first thing to get outside talk, you're gonna put a speaker page. Because when you start reaching out to businesses, they wanna know who, why, who is this person trying to come here?
So I put a speaker page and I remember, in my system I use, I call speaking viral photos. That means that I use our patient base to get talks. And I remember he's calling me, Hey man, I got my first talk. He was super excited and there was like seven people. He didn't close everybody. It was like three people.
But he was so happy. I was so happy. Yes. Because the three people was fine, but the fact that the guy now is liberated, you know what I mean? Yes, I know exactly what you mean. Liberated. I just, I'm in coaching relationship now with four offices in Puerto Rico, and they do group reports, right?
Conversion before 50%, a little bit below, maybe 45. So I spent three months. I redesigned the talk. I had all the doctors do the talk send to me. I review every talk. Everybody watches, I coach them. Now we're over 70% conversion, right? So things like that that I do, and I love doing it. I love doing it. I have a, one of my, yeah, I have a story after story though, by the way.
I know you. And I love your stories. One of the things I wanna do, I wanna make sure that people know, you know, I believe in coaches. I have, I've set people free. And what you said about the freedom that that person has, they know that they can do it. So we've got the chiropractic message.
You help people form the message mm-hmm. And help them present it in such a way and help them with skills and techniques so that they can give talks. Mm-hmm. And they're, they're empowered. So, we are almost out of time. Would you tell everybody one more time, how did they get in touch with you? Yeah. And what would that, the best way, the best way to get in touch with me, my email is roberto@influenceology.com.
Roberto@influenceology, or they can go to any platform of Facebook, Instagram, and they can search Roberto Monaco and send me a message. There I am on Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn, TikTok, Pinterest, x, and YouTube. By the way, I want to tell any podcast listener who's still with us right now that the reason that I reached out to Roberto is that I've heard of him for years.
Number one. But as I've been going through different podcasts and interviewing people, people ask me, have you ever talked to Roberto Monaco? And I said, well, you know, no I haven't. Well, about the. Third time that happened, I thought I'm gonna reach out to Roberto Monaco and I'm certainly glad that I did.
Roberto, thank you for being my guest. Thank you for your service to chiropractic, profession. I am thrilled to have you as a guest and, we'll talk to you later, I hope. Okay. Thanks so much, Dr. Uh, Lloyd. Appreciate that. Thanks, buddy.